Enterprise on sky?

TNG repeats on BBC2?

Star Trek in general?

Talk here.  There must be some other Trek fans out there other than me!

Well, there's me!  But don't start me on Enterprise.  Seriously, don't.  I'm thisclose to just giving up and I'm someone who's seen every other Trek episode ever.  Admittedly most of the Voyager ones I winced through and am never going to watch again, but I stood them.  So far it's only the nice doggie and the mere fact that it's Trek that are keeping me watching.  Well, I kinda like the Doctor as well, I suppose.  

And you know, I don't have high standards for sci-fi.  I am one of only about three people in the known universe who likes Andromeda (the others are Lurker Nan and Kevin Sorbo).  But, man, Enterprise is intensely boring.  

Plus, I saw Trekkies for the first time the other day.  It disturbed me.

Must. Resist. Enterprise. Rant.

I've posted repeatedly on this in the other thread but the portrayal of Vulcans on Enterprise is the most stupid thing I've seen on a recent Trek show.

Have the writer's even seen Star Trek. Vulcans are logical and don't display emotion. They are not a)arrogant, b)rude, c) so far up their own arses that they need Andrex to perform a mind meld.

I was going to give up on this show, however the opportunity to sit and shout at the television every monday night is just too good to resist.

I actually quite like Enterprise.  I haven't seen this weeks ep, yet, but so far, its alright. I'm liking it better than Voyager.  Of course, there are plenty of things wrong with it.  Namely T'Pol.  I mean, she's allowed to have some character, surely? I mean, I haven't seen many eps of TOS, and am only on the BBC2 repeats of TNG (its just started series 2, though I've seen later episodes when they were on), so I haven't really seen so much of the Vulcans, but word NeilS, so far they just annoy me.  What annoys me more though is the crews' attitude to the Vulcans.
Archer wears the same expression all the time.  I really hope they develop Mayweather and Hoshi soon, cause I don't want them turning into little Harry Kims.

I love Trip though, and no, thats not because of his personality.

To be honest, I prefer TNG to Enterprise so far.  I love Data, and I think Picard is the perfect Captain.  I used to prefer Sisko, but I've reconsidered.  He's everything a captain should be, plus he's slightly isolated from his crew, which I like, and he hates children, which is a great touch in making sure he's not the alround perfect human being.

Ah, Picard.  The Giles of his day.

See, I'm not so very bothered about the Vulcan inconsistencies; I could stand that if the storylines weren't so bloody boring.  However, I must admit that I'm possibly being harder on Enterprise than if I'd never seen Voyager, because my patience was already exhausted.  On the other hand, that's a good thing because I don't want to completely waste my time watching something I don't much like yet AGAIN.  But it has good potential, I mean a show about early exploration really should be more exciting than this.  It makes me wish they'd gone with the Starfleet Academy show that was rumoured and I never thought I'd say that.

I know, for the first mission of exploration they don't seem to be finding very much. A few weird humans on a former colony, some naussicans and a comet. Not exactly the stuff of legend.

The impression in the previous series is that the Galaxy and the federation in particular is teeming with life.

It's so boring I'm beginning to wish that a few Voyager style spatial anomalies with accompanying technobabble would be a welcome distraction.

Oh God NO.  Please, don't even joke about such things.

They should have a whole episode about the dog.  They go to a planet populated by intelligent dogs and, er, I dunno, they have to programme the dog so that its speech can be understood by humans and it becomes the ship's ambassador to this planet.  And it has a romance with an alien bitch and saves the whole ship somehow.  Then afterwards the speech programme gets taken out, but from then on whenever they show the dog, you can tell it's really thinking "Stoopid humans, they wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for me."

*slaps Pandrea* Snap out of the delusion. :)

Seriously, that would be far more entertainting than any other storyline we've hade.

Star Trek in the UK, I knew there was a topic calling to me, I'm here, I'm home!  I love me some Star Trek, TNG is the best, I've not seen Enterprise yet - can it be any worse than Voyager though? I watched most of that with my eyes shut. I hate everything about Janeway, she drives me mad.

Wow, Enterprise finally came up with a story (although I still say the doggie planet would have been better).  I'm not sure if it really worked - there were a lot of holes in the plot - but at least they tried.  How naive is Captain Archer?  'Oh, you say you're a good guy from the future?  Right, okay, have access to the controls of the most advanced ship my planet has.'  And I knew they were going to make that gadget fall off his hand in reset-button style.  So when exactly are the Suliban getting their orders from?  Do we know yet?

I do like Dr Phlox, I must say.  He's always so happy and content, he's interested in everything.  He's my second favourite character (after the dog).

In last night's episode they said that Malcolm Reed's birthday was 2nd September. That's the same as mine. I'm so proud. I even has a Homer Simpson moment when I got confused and thought that I was Mr Reed.

Well, he's about the coolest human to be, I guess.

I missed last night's show.  Should I be sorry about that?

It was alright, nothing too special and didn't add anything to the supposed story arc.

There's a story arc?  Heh.  I suppose they've had two episodes with the Suliban so far which is closer to an arc than anything else.  Unless it's the tension with the Vulcans.  Except we know that's not going to go anywhere, because it can't get worse than general suspicion or we'd know.

And it just gets worse - why am I still watching this crap?  Tonight's episode (Oasis) had a plot that Picard would have worked out in about three seconds - he wouldn't have put it in a Dixon Hill episode - but as it wended its predictable way along I was able to stick it.  And then it suddenly ended, with no freaking twist!  I mean, come on: the story is that the guy's crew are all holograms he created except for him and his daughter, and he doesn't want his daughter to leave the planet.  It's, like, Sci-Fi 101 that OF COURSE the daughter is a hologram too but doesn't know it.  And yet - somehow the people making Enterprise haven't learned this really basic rule of writing.  They've regressed so far back that not only is the original Star Trek a masterpiece of clever writing and sophistication compared to Enterprise, old Fifties crap like Forbidden Planet (which the plot ripped off, along with Bladerunner) is too.  Feh - I'm about at the end of my tether.  Thank god Andromeda is coming back this week.