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Veda
Per Piranha's idea in another thread perhaps we need some titles that go beyond the 1000 level of posts. Suggestions?
BJC
Didn't I make this suggestion a few weeks ago and get not such a good response?

Oh well. Is there much higher you can go than "The Star!....."?
Claudia
The writer, the director, the auteur? ;-)
Piranha
The Network Exec (awfully over there-ish, I'm afraid), the Critic, The Exec Producer, John Logie Baird, The Academy President, Graeme F*cking Kennedy....
Meowcat
Bert Newton?
Piranha
Well, I guess "Bert Newton" could be stepping stone to somewhere else....like Hector Crawford, or Bud Tingwall or Alwyn Kurts. Or (scraping for a female here) Ruth Cracknell, June Salter or Lorraine Bayley?

Sorry, I know these are all Aussies.
Meowcat
If we're keeping with the Aussie theme then doesn't there have to be a Bill Hunter in there - I know there is a legal requirement to have him in every truely Aussie film these days.
Veda
Sorry BJC I didn't see you say that.

I *think* I can make as many levels as I want. Right now The Star... is our highest at 1000 posts.
BJC
That's okay Veda.

I think what I meant to say is that if you are "the star" how much higher can you go, but obviously my fellow fugees have come up with some mighty fine suggestions!!
Ambrose's Auntie
Perhaps Oscar Nominee at 2500 and Oscar Winner at 5000.
Claudia
Oooh. I like.
Veda
I also liked what Piranha said somewhere else about Freakin Legend.
ejg25
I don't think I'd particularly like being a Writer (and anyone who thinks that's above Star needs to hear the joke about the Polish starlet) or an Oscar Nominee or Winner. I like the system the way it is now.
Nalian
How about: Terribly Addicted - Family sending rescue team? :P
Piranha
Heee. They just don't understand. The family sending the rescue team, that is.
trifling_matter
I like Freakin' Legend. I also like the Oscar ones, except, aren't the current rankings more tv than film? Everyone's Favourite Regular doesn't seem very film-y. So maybe Emmy Nominee/Winner instead?
Heatherbelle
Either the Emmy winner (what about Bafta's?) or the 'Freakin Legend' would be cool.
BJC
To have a blend of tv/film rankings perhaps the next levels could be:

Emmy Nominee
Emmy Winner
Oscar Nominee
Oscar Winner
EternalTimTams
I like the idea of Emmy Nominee and Emmy Winner.

Maybe you could have

Best Supporting Actor/ess
Best Actor/ess
Best Director

as the levels?
Mirren
What are the other levels, btw? I've figured out over-zealous extra (0), uncredited guest star (100) and loveable recurring character (250), but then I lose track. Is it everyone's favourite regular (500) and then the star (1000)?
Heatherbelle
I think so.

You could always use 'Hollywood Royalty', as another level.
ejg25
I really like our current hierarchy. It's cute and easily understandable.
Veda
For clarity we weren't looking to replace the current, but add onto it. Since right now we max out at 1000.
jenelope
How 'bout "Vanity Fair Cover Story" to tie in with the theme of ubiquity?
BJC
So has any decision been made on the next levels after 1000?
Veda
There doesn't seem to be any option that more than one or two people like :P
ejg25
We don't even have a consensus on whether we want to add new levels and descriptions at all. I don't.
Piranha
I'd like to have another level or two, and I'm not fussy about what they're called, as long as they're within the established theme.
Heatherbelle
What Pirahna said.

I'm original, aren't I?
Claudia
But eej, you seem to be the only one against it.

Maybe poll a few of the options or something, and include "no more levels" as a choice? I'm good with whatever, really.
devi
My vote goes to Emmy Nominee, Emmy Winner, Hollywood Royalty. Then maybe 'irritating has-been'.

Edit: Show Creator? 'Creative Genius Behind the Series'?
Pandrea
I really don't care either way but considering I'd probably be in the running for 'Irritating Has-Been' (considering my level of posts) can we please not have that? I'd have to slink away in shame!
Veda
Alright, I will make it into a poll soon, first I want to make sure I have all the agreeable nominees.

Everything will stay as is with The Star... still being at 1000

a. Change nothing - cap at 1000
b. The Writer, The Director , The Auteur
c. Network Exec, Critic, Executive Producer, Academy President *
d. Freakin' Legend
e. Terribly Addicted
g. Best Supporting Actor, Best Actor, Best Director **
i. Vanity Fair Cover Story
j. Show Creator, Genius Behind the Scenes
k. Emmy Nominee, Emmy Winner, Hollywood Royalty (these were originally 2 seperate sets, I hope the combination is alright)

*I took out the names of specific people as they're locality-centric
** We can't have gender specific, so everyone would need to be either actor or actress

So no need to vote here, there will be a poll for that soon.

b, c, and j (no relation to our friend BJC) all kind of veer off from the acting thing because not all top celebs go on to this path. Also, I took out the Oscar ones and replaced it with the Emmy ones since we are keeping with a TV theme. And I agree with Pandrea that the top shouldn't be something that could be offensive so I left that out.

The levels will probably be 2500, 5000, and 7500. The single ones (d, e, i) will just be 2500 and that will be the cap. These numbers are up for discussion though.

If anyone finds anything horribly offensive or henious about these nominees speak now.
BJC
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b, c, and j (no relation to our friend BJC)


Hee.
Claudia
I'd say if we're going to have just one addition, we should make it at 5,000. A bit of something to shoot for for everyone, rather than some folks already being there. But if people who are close or there disagree, I don't feel that strongly about it.
ejg25
Maybe it is just me, or maybe it's just me taking the time to post about it. The thing is, like Pandrea, I'm going to get saddled with whatever title gets added, and I don't want any of those labels. I think we should first have a poll about whether or not to change things, and then one on what to change to, since they're separate issues. If not changing is stuck on as an option alongside choosing titles, it's not going to have a chance in statistical hell.

Another option is just raising the rates for our existing titles.
Claudia
I was thinking it had a *better* chance, because it only had to beat the best out of six or whatever.

But I wouldn't mind two polls either.
Piranha
Well, since additional "labels" are obviously upsetting some folk, maybe we should leave things as they are.

No, screw that. Unless the original level designations were decided by poll or committee, why should these be? Is this a democracy? Of course not. Forum Bosses - do your thing, and bugger the naysayers. If you want new level designators, have 'em.
BJC
The original ratings were open for discussion as well (thread) but I don't think it was thought of at the time to have titles past 1000 posts.

I personally think adding to the current system is a great idea. The titles are fun, quirky and IMHO harmless.
Piranha
Okay, discussion is fine. Just make a decision already.
Mirren
I have no opinion on this at all, apart from to say that I detest gender-specific job titles (hostess, authoress, manageress) so I'm very pleased that "actress" has been dumped.
trifling_matter
I'm all for adding some new levels. Back in the day, as they say, perhaps 1000 posts seemed a long way off and a mighty achievement (and it is a mighty achievement) but this board has become such a success that 1000 is no longer the pinnacle of posting prolificacy, so I think it's nice to give the multi-posters something new to aim for. But that's just my 2cents.
Veda
QUOTE (Piranha @ Today at 1:03 am)
No, screw that. Unless the original level designations were decided by poll or committee, why should these be? Is this a democracy? Of course not. Forum Bosses - do your thing, and bugger the naysayers. If you want new level designators, have 'em.

Yes. It is a democracy, or at least as close as at can be and still function well.

Perhaps you want to reread the mission statement of the board, Piranha.

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History

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Mission Statement

The intent of the TV Refugee Board is to be a forum for all members to comfortably share their opinions about television and other topics of interest.  The TV Refugee board is a community board, where all members have a vote in the decision making process, as well as the moderation process.  A few members have the ability to edit, delete other posts, and in extreme cases ban people.  This power will only be used to edit out spoilers, remove posts which bash the board, the board members, other boards and their members, or illegal material.  All member of the community have the right to ask another member to remove material, which they feel is inappropriate.

All members should feel welcome to post if they want and make suggestions to enhance the posting community.  If a point in time comes where the community moderating system is no longer succeeding on the board a new plan of action will be voted upon by the members.


Not trying to be rude about it, but I just want all the facts to be straight when it comes to important stuff like this.
Veda
Alright. Since 58% voted to add more levels on top of the current ones that is what we'll do.

I'll put up the poll sometime on Friday and these will be the choices, unless anyone can come up with anything clever to ad, or a convincing argument about why one of these choices should not be on the poll.


a. The Writer, The Director , The Auteur
b. Network Exec, Critic, Executive Producer, Academy President
c. Freakin' Legend
d. Terribly Addicted
e. Best Supporting Actor, Best Actor, Best Director
f. Vanity Fair Cover Story
g. Show Creator, Genius Behind the Scenes
h. Emmy Nominee, Emmy Winner, Hollywood Royalty (these were originally 2 seperate sets, I hope the combination is alright)


Note: Can not have more than 10 choices for the poll
Pandrea
This isn't an argument against, but I don't quite get how 'Vanity Fair' comes into it. Okay, it's a big magazine and I guess people want to be on the cover, but is it really such a big deal? I mean, I can think of tons of blah celebs who have been on it. And aren't other magazines worth getting the cover of too?
ejg25
And I think "Terribly Addicted" has a negative connotation that no one will want to carry. Also, if we added Writer or Director, they'd have to be in the middle of the hierarchy, not above the star... cause that'd make no sense.

For reasons to do with over there, Network Executive is problematic.

I actually think it'd be fun to add some levels in the middle: things we skipped, like Cameraman, Makeup Artist, Personal Assistant at the bottom. I mean, the Star's the star, right?

How about Hollywood Legend instead of Freakin' Legend?
Heatherbelle
Could you not have

Hollywood Royalty
Hollywood Legend


They'd follow on from each other, wouldn't they?
ejg25
That's nice. I like it.
Heatherbelle
Occasionaly, I have been known to have the odd good idea.
Ambrose's Auntie
I like Heatherbelle's good idea too.
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