But I've also noticed some other weird trend. I shop when I'm with other people, but I'm more inclined to buy if I'm alone. It's like the shopping has more purpose when done as a solo expedition. [/quote] Yes, yes. I don't like the pressure of buying clothes with other people. I'm pretty cheap about clothes and on the first look around I usually don't see anything I want enough to part with my money. Then I'll think about something I saw later and go back for it.
Mirren
Nov 14 2004, 07:46 PM
Wow, I really thought I was the only woman alive who detested shoe shopping. I'm not a shopping fan - I don't generally enjoy the process of just looking at stuff and (as so often happens) not being able to find something I want/need is incredibly frustrating.
Clothes and shoe shopping are a pain because nine times out of ten I come away empty-handed. I'm fairly picky and it's usually very difficult to find trousers that fit (wide hips, or, as I prefer to think of it, freakishly narrow waist). But like ejg I get seasons where I love everything. So two months ago when I didn't have a job the shops were full of desirable treasures, but now I'm employed with guaranteed income and an actual need for workwear ... nada.
At the moment it's also a little irritating that I don't know the right shops for basic purchases - like where to buy a diary or charity Christmas cards in the absence of WHSmith.
On the other hand, abandon me in a bookstore, drugstore or a music shop and I can be happy for hours.
I used to hate food shopping when it was a weekly or fortnightly trip to the supermarket, but now I'm living right downtown I can grab some coriander, salmon or ice-cream on my way home from the bus stop. I'm also enjoying all the new Canadian foodstuffs I can buy. Unlike most Brits I'm not missing marmite (yeuch) but I do hanker after squash and spreadable butter.
BJC
Nov 14 2004, 07:53 PM
QUOTE Oh that's such a pain in the ass. Trying to find clothes while in the process of weight loss is exremely frustrating. Two weeks later the stuff is too big. Sing it sista! Thank GOD my Mum is handy with a sewing machine. QUOTE At the moment it's also a little irritating that I don't know the right shops for basic purchases That is so frustrating! I feel in love with several shops when I lived in the UK and I miss them dearly. Give me Marks & Sparks knickers any day. And I would kill to get Sainsbury's in Australia.
Pandrea
Nov 14 2004, 08:21 PM
QUOTE charity Christmas cards in the absence of WHSmith. This is honestly not meant to be annoying, but I've never understood why people buy charity cards from shops like that, which take a cut, rather than actual charity shops, where all the profit goes to the cause. The quality and choice of the cards seems, if anything, better from (say) an Oxfam shop than a newsagent/supermarket and since you're making the effort to support a good cause anyway ... isn't it just as easy to do it direct? Or is it just my area where there are hundreds of charity shops around?
Ambrose's Auntie
Nov 14 2004, 08:37 PM
I loathe shoe shopping with a passion - I'm always glad to see I'm not alone in that. I am happiest in a book or a stationery store, or a homewares place. Clothes shopping I have to be in the right mood for, which doesn't happen all that often. I also love grocery shopping - I find it really relaxing.
ejg25
Nov 14 2004, 09:20 PM
They don't have squash and spreadable butter in Canada? Are you sure? They've got them here.
I'd say Barnes & Noble is the equivalent of W.H. Smith.
Mirren
Nov 14 2004, 09:29 PM
On the charity card front, I was conflating examples - I actually always used to buy them from those specialized outlets that open up in church halls or whatever in November. I did buy my diaries from WHSmith, though. But I haven't found the equivalent of either the card shops or charity shops here (except for the Salvation Army, which I know does lots of good work, but I give to secular charities).
And I haven't been able to find squash here (apart from ribena) or spreadable butter - what brands do you have in the States? Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place (Safeways, CostCo). I don't think there's a B&N in Vancouver, either.
ejg25
Nov 14 2004, 10:51 PM
Pretty much whichever brand makes regular butter has a whipped, spreadable version next to it on the shelf. I'd try a different supermarket. And if your local supermarket doesn't have squash, a trip to the fruit market is probably called for.
BJC
Nov 14 2004, 11:13 PM
Mirren, are you talking about the drinkable squash or fruit squash? If you are talking about the type you drink, its probaby sold under a different name.
Mirren
Nov 15 2004, 01:55 AM
I was talking about drinkable squash - it just doesn't seem to be on the shelves. All there is is kool aid and other powdered drinks, or bottles/ cans of coke and suchlike. Consequently I'm drinking a lot of water.
But I'll look out for "whipped" butter, thanks for the tip.
devi
Nov 15 2004, 02:15 AM
As in lemon squash, the king of soft drinks? That is very sad.
Now, my question is this: many complain about xmas shopping, but is there anyone out there, apart from my mother and I, who actually enjoys the whole process? Our theory is that you aim to get people either something they need but didn't even know it, or something they yearn for but would never buy for themselves. You can't always meet your mark every time but it's so very satisfying when you manage it. For me the building blocks are to keep an ear and eye tuned for potential gifts throughout the year, a comprehensive yet not inflexible shopping list, and a good supply of really cool wrapping paper.
Ambrose's Auntie
Nov 15 2004, 03:06 AM
devi, I love Christmas shopping, and gift shopping generally. I get very excited about finding just the right gift for someone. And I'll buy (or make) things as it occurs to me that someone would love it, rather than wait until Christmas or birthday when I'd forget. The down side of that is that sometimes I can't wait until Christmas or birthday and I'll give the gift beforehand, and then have to come up with something for Christmas or birthday separately.
I also love wrapping gifts. I've been known to spend more on wrapping than on the actual gift. Some boxes are so absolutely beautiful that I can't leave them in the store, and they become an integral part of the present.
melusina
Nov 15 2004, 08:50 AM
I don't really like shopping but I DO like buying. I like to walk in somewhere and if something catches my eye in 10 seconds I'll look a bit more and very often buy something. If not, I'll walk out. That's why I only go to vintage stores very occasionally (I have to be in the right mood to rummage) and why I loathe department stores. One major change to my shopping / buying habits since I've been in London is that I will only go clothes shopping by myself and if I'm in Oxford Street (I am now living a 15-minute walk from Oxford Circus - dangerous!) I will only go at 10am on a Saturday morning. Any other time is just too crowded and horrible. I think my preference to buy rather than shop is why I don't like communal shopping; I can't bear dithering which tends to happen when a group of us get together to buy stuff!
I love Christmas shopping though... it's the one time where I actually like the hustle and jostle of Oxford and Regent Streets (although I usually try to buy unusual things from different places throughout the year so I'm giving something totally unique). I just love that it's cold, and the Christmas lights are on, and that I'm not actually looking to BUY presents so I can experience all the Christmas-ness without the stress of looking for stuff. Present-wise, this will be a very easy Christmas as I am having a very low-key day this year for a change!
Veda
Nov 15 2004, 09:55 AM
Drinkable squash?!
Pandrea
Nov 15 2004, 10:06 AM
Does not actually contain the fruit you call squash: orange squash drink*. We called it diluting orange when I was growing up, practically raised on it (with many arguments about how much water my mother thought should go in it as opposed to how much I thought) and can't bear it now. (*It won't let me link directly but put Find: orange squash and click on the first one to see) Mirren, Amnesty's Canadian office seems to be selling cards online.
kmm56
Nov 15 2004, 11:39 AM
I'm so relieved you weren't actually talking about, like, liquid pumpkin.
I actually just bought shoes this weekend, because I'm getting to the point of needing a new pair and I saw a pair that looked just like my old ones. My problem with shoe shopping is that all of my remaining "oh my God I'm wearing something wrong and against the rules and people will look at me and laugh" are concentrated in my shoes. Regular clothes, I can evaluate. I'm never going to be a fashion maven, but I know when I look good and when I look silly and I don't worry that people are snickering at my pants behind my back. Shoes, though, I feel like there's a rulebook somewhere that I don't have a copy of, and I get paranoid.
So yes, shoe shopping boo hiss.
Boliver
Nov 15 2004, 12:16 PM
I like shopping for gifts for people because I usually think about what to get throughout the year, and I love wrapping gifts. I just don't like the holiday of Christmas itself. I'm *this close* to putting up a Festivus sign in my yard so I can get into some sort of holiday spirit. I just have to convince the husband unit that the neighbors won't hate us if I do it- especially the guy with the nice lawn, the one that had a Bush Cheney 04 sign in the lawn up until 2 weeks, ago.
Drinkable squash made me think of steaming a butternut squash, putting it in the blender with some milk, and drinking it. Ugh. Soup? Okay. A shake? No thanks. Butternut is one of the very few things I miss eating on my plan. It's chock full of starchy goodness.
ejg25
Nov 15 2004, 12:50 PM
Ah, translational difficulties again. That kind of squash... maybe Orange Crush is similar? Or Orangina? You also might try Fanta... I know the European version has real orange juice in it, but the American kind usually doesn't.
Pandrea
Nov 15 2004, 01:55 PM
But the real question obviously is, where do we all buy cigarettes Marlboro?
Claudia
Nov 15 2004, 02:01 PM
Orangina seems a good thing to try. Is orange squash fizzy, though? Orangina is intermediate in fizziness between none at all and what most sodas have.
Pandrea
Nov 15 2004, 03:12 PM
Orange squash is not remotely fizzy and tastes (unfortunately for Mirren) nothing at all like Orangina. You dilute it with water. Don't you have lemon barley water over there either? That's similar but, well, with lemon and barley.
ejg25
Nov 15 2004, 03:32 PM
Ew, no. We do have concentrated orange juice that you have to add water to. Maybe that's it. If you're looking for watery orange flavor, there's powdered Tang (which I personally love).
I don't know about you, but I buy my cigarettes Marlboro at le market super. To which I take the train subway.
Claudia
Nov 15 2004, 04:05 PM
Barley isn't totally unknown here, but it's a very British thing, I think.
Khari
Nov 15 2004, 04:35 PM
Mirren, if you get desperate you could always try the outrageously expensive squash (and baked beans, tea bags etc.) from here: http://www.expatcorner.ca/drinks.php3?acti...v=squash&page=1They're out of stock at the moment though.
Mirren
Nov 15 2004, 10:41 PM
My god, $6 for orange squash? Good thing the tap water tastes so nice here. Ejg, it's not the same as the dilutable Minute Maid juices - there's clearly no cultural read-over. Which is a good thing for North Americans, as there's nothing healthy about squash - it's basically just sugar and E numbers. Though I'm concerned that here everyone drinks fizzy drinks (or "pop" as it's cutely called in Canada) instead.
This lengthy conversation is a bit embarrassing as (well known to Pandrea and Khari) adults in the UK do not typically drink squash - it's a kids' drink (like kool aid, but much nicer). I'm not really that worked up about it, honest. And I'm trying not to become *that* ex-pat.
ejg25
Nov 15 2004, 11:05 PM
Based on that description, I think you might get something similar if you took Tang and put too much water in it... more than they recommend on the label. Tang, also a kids' drink a la Kool Aid. Well, kids and astronauts.
Heatherbelle
Nov 16 2004, 06:35 AM
I still drink Squash, Mirren!
I got upset a couple of months back - Safeway did a really nice 'Pear and Blueberry' one that I used to like. Since Morrison's took over, they stopped doing it, so I have had to find another flavour instead. A normalish apple & blackcurrant, but its not bad.
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